Mozell Sponsler: Let's use Albert Einstein as an example. He was the greatest mind of the 20th century; yet, he didn't learn how to speak until he was almost 5 years old. That is one of the many reasons why many people now suspect that Albert Einstein had Asperger's Syndrome (Mild form of autism) even though autism was not discovered until much later. People with Asperger's Syndrome are generally placed in special education, not because of an intellectual disability, but because they lack the ability to communicate with others proficiently. Leonardo Da Vinci is another good example. It is now believed that Leonardo Da Vinci had a IQ of around 220; yet, he was dyslexic (Another form of learning disability). Historians know this for a fact that Leonardo Da Vinci had dyslexia by his writing styles. If Leonardo Da Vinci was in school today, Leonardo Da Vinci would be placed in special education based on the fact that he was dyslexic even though his IQ is astronomically hi! gh....Show more
Walter Scordino: I paintings for a school district which will in many circumstances classify a newborn as mentally retarded with an IQ of 70 or decrease. different little ones can receive particular preparation programming or accomodations below a getting to comprehend incapacity class. this signifies that there's a intense discrepancy between the youngster's IQ and skill element. as an social gathering, a newborn may have an time-honored IQ- say one hundred- yet their tutorial performance or fulfillment is at a element of 80 5 or decrease. The discrepancy between the IQ and fulfillment should be 15 factors or better with the intention to receive eligibility below getting to comprehend disabled. a newborn with a decrease IQ can actually have a getting to comprehend incapacity, yet no longer be categorised as mentally retarded. as an social gathering someone with an IQ of seventy 8 may nicely be appearing at a 60 fulfillment element in which case they c! ould be categorised as getting to comprehend disabled. desire ! this helps....Show more
Particia Thorton: There are? You sure about that? I think you've got confused somewhere
Cecil Derenzi: I don't actually work in the field, but I do know a great deal about the subject.Firstly, individuals with IQs tested above 130 (depending on state laws; this is the general criteria though) are eligible for special education programs geared toward students whose abilities are beyond what a standard same-age classroom can offer. They typically will get bored with the material and the higher the IQ the more in need they will generally be for special education programs. Students at the lower levels of the gifted range (130 - 137) may or may not be able to function in a standard classroom. They may do fine in the regular classroom, but others won't and again the higher the ability the more likely the need for intervention of some sort especially if they become frustrated to the point of screaming and acting out in class. A lot of these ! kids are just seen as having behavioral issues by untrained teachers and may go unidentified. There are different programs and options for gifted students. For some it may be GATE (Gifted and Talented Education), or maybe they're put on an IEP or DEP. In some instances grade skipping is a potential option. There's also the issue of LDs (learning disabilities). While it may seem paradoxical, gifted children can and do have LDs. LDs are defined by a discrepancy between IQ scores and achievement test scores. These discrepancy criteria may differ from state to state, but it's generally anywhere between a difference of 15 to 30 points (generally closer to 30). If a child's full scale IQ is say 137, but their total score on an achievement test is 103 there is an LD present since they're not performing up to their potential for some reason (maybe they have an attention, memory, visual or auditory processing problem etc). They may have some area of considerable weakness an! d in some cases they may be able to compensate for the weakness, but in! other cases the discrepancy may be so large that they cannot compensate using their strengths. These children are called twice-exceptional since they are gifted, but also learning disabled in a certain area. Students with high IQs with an LD need intervention to help them with that weak area of cognitive function that impedes them from reaching their potential in school.So, I understand your confusion. Being gifted isn't generally associated with being learning disabled, but you should think of learning disabilities as the relation between achievement and potential. And special education generally isn't associated with gifted students since most people expect them to perform well in the classroom, but they need their intellectual abilities to be nurtured and they typically cannot get that in a standard classroom....Show more
Jefferson Sarson: You bet there are - they have ADHD, Autism, Anxiety or a host of other things that may prevent them from putting one foot ! in front of the other. Over the years I have had several high function ASD students that ended up in group homes because they just couldn't function in the world.
Edmund Rappley: @Jack: Yes there are, I've known people with professionally tested IQs in the 150s etc. who have been in Special ed so I'm asking the people who actually work in the field.
Julienne Poplawski: First, many times giftedness falls under the label of 'exceptional' just like special education- different ends of the bell curve, if you will. Some places it's the same group who works with kids. That being said,people can be twice exceptional. Learning Disabilities in gifted people is probably under identified, actually. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and sometimes those can be vastly different. It's said Einstein's writing was illegible. He might have had dysgraphia (who knows). But that's just something I've heard. And for the record, IQ tests and achievement tests are differe! nt in design....Show more
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